Dragon's Dogma 2 Discussion With Rurikhan | Yggdrasil Podcast 40 (2024)

An actual ng+ with new mobs or even just variants of existing ones would do wonders for this game

Yggdrasil podcast is just turning into talking with Rurikhan and I’m all for it

"the fake arisen does not matter to the story" bruh.. wouldnt that be like... a bad thing for the story if the one plot point established at the beginning just fizzles out? I am really not being negative here i legitimatley need someone to help me understand

Awesome we're back!

Just finished the game yesterday, and this podcast appeared exactly when I needed it. 👌🏻

You can absolutely stop the talos before he destroys the encampment.

To your point I do wish there was more of a payoff for the Disa plotline, like a scene where you can see all the evidence and effort you've done in the early game working for Brant pay off.
I don't know if it's copium or reading too much into things but I felt like the plot of the game felt like a 'retelling' of DD1, but it was like being retold by someone who really wants it to go a certain way. I guess a way to put it would be like if a dungeon master for a DND game wanted to run DRAGON'S DOGMA but then the players decided to go against the script and the DM was just getting irate, because the Pathfinder really felt like that sort of person to me. He wanted the world/game to go a certain way but you as the Arisen decided 'nah i'm gonna use the godsbane on myself' and his carefully planned plot is just thrown out of whack and he throws you into Hell World as 'punishment'. Even the Dragon (who I have to emphasise isn't even given a name, he's NOT Grigori) comes off as someone who's really sick of this endless cycle schtick and wants you to break the charade, to the point where he just berates you during his phoned in fight because the Arisen didn't think to use the macguffin during the ride to the final battle.

I wished that the unmoored world didn't have a time limit, because it's the most fun and difficult part of the game, so it was the most enjoyable part to be in. It's a bit of a shame that the postgame rushes you and doesn't exactly allows you to savor how great the unmoored world is. Maybe we'll get a dlc eventually with smth like bitterblack isle, cuz that would be great

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We need new game plus scaling in this game

I would love to see the base game expanded upon as well as a remake of the Bitterblack Isle

Talking about accidentally finding awesome weapons and abilities. I accidentally stole one of the best spears in the game, before I even had Spearhand at the beginning of the game. I guess my thief auto stole it from the dragon in Melve when I was fighting the dragon with the mystic Spearhand guy. I kept wondering why none of the spears in the game were as good as the starting spear.

new podcast lets goooo

I think this game really could have benefited from radient monster hunt quests to keep you going well after the endgame

Something I wonder about with uneven tolerances for mxt's in different games is that the games with milder mxt's creeping in are one's that attract more people who are intolerant of them. Say a Dragon's Dogma, or imagine if the next Fromsoft game had mxt's in it.
Contrast with free to play, Diablo, World of Warcraft, etc., those audiences attract a different set of people with an overall different culture of values (maybe that's taking it too far). Anyways, I think there's something to this and Ruri has the misfortune, in some way, of being a mixture of both.
He's into some of the heavy mxt games, has an intolerance for them, but ends up being on a bit of an island when it comes to railing against them because the bulk of the people who would be right there with him don't touch those games. I'm over here basically playing Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate till kingdom come then pepper in some Capcom and Nintendo and indies.
So, when Dragon's Dogma or Monster Hunter have them, I might have a few moments of rage because I'm protective/defensive of the good games and don't want to lose the thread of relative pure for-enjoyment/quality game design.

I didn’t play DD2, but the idea that a fake chosen one doesn’t matter or has no real resolution is super jarring.

2:14:00 Giving gifts has a cooldown of 1 day. So you need to give her flowers, sleep a day, give her flowers, sleep a day etc. So sad to say, only your first flowers counted. None of the rest.

One monster we haven't seen in Dragons Dogma is a Cerberus, but there is a Cerberus tattoo for one of the tattoo options. I would hope thats a subtle hint we might get that monster as DLC, it'd be cool to see how Itsuno interprets a fight with the 3 headed hell hound

I was playing Warfarer during the Talos fight with a bow and daggers, and I stopped him before he got to the outpost and got the trophy. I didn't even know he could trample the outpost.

Most people don’t understand what objective and subjective means. This goes both ways. Some content crestors think what they’re saying is fact when it’s just an opinion.

My first cycle i played without looking anything up, and one of the proudest moments i had was clearing the Sphinx riddles without looking it up.
The harder two riddles were to find its parent and return to your first seeker token. Finding the parent became clear to me when i remember the onslaught of "SphinxesParent" pawns in the rift, all with high scores. The Finders Token was aweful, i retraced all the exploration parts i had done so far.
But after i had gotten all the chests and gotten all the loot, the big one included, i felt so satisfied.
Pro tip, you can dupe the eternal wake stone at the guy.

One thing about Dark Arisen that I think DD2 is not benefiting from yet: As you progress Bitterblack Island, you gain certain noticeboard quests which add extremely difficult DLC monsters to the overworld such as the gorecyclops in soulflayer canyon, or living armor. Perhaps a future DLC can increase the variety and difficulty of the overworld! Not to mention, hard mode itself was originally a DLC for DD1. Maybe they can patch that in sooner because it's essentially just a multiplier!
I would love to see a massive, labyrinthine DLC for DD2 in the future. Perhaps something involving the moon level they never got to realize in DD1.

Helldivers is a 30 - 50 usd Game
Dragon's Dogma is a 70-80 usd Game and they try to sell you a stupid tax after the fact I feel that's a bit less acceptable than Helldivers pay to win. .... And you payed 70 - 80 usd for a mid ass story that you can tell was rushed told by less than half of a normal triple A team. Capcom really Shat the bed here.
In the end Dragon's Dogma 2 deserved much better it's a awesome game feels great to play but it's a shame that Micro transactions and poor performance is going to be the main thing that people talk about when it comes to the game and not it's true fun gameplay or the actual stuff that needs like paper thin dialogue, on rails RPG limits and poor enemy variance, might get fixed with DLC but it's a 70 usd Game it should not need a DLC to become passible.

I played without spoilers and sat on the throne. Had to start all over again in NG+. Cant wait to get to the end game this time around.

We’re so back

Goated podcast. Ruri was spitting so much fire during the mtx segment, my pawn's gear's now dragonforged. Podcast should've gone on for at least another 30 min tbh.

2:12:44 that's been my biggest annoyance in subsequent playthroughs. if you have multiple people who are red-cheeked up the last person you maxed out will be the one you stick with. so in both of my playthroughs so far it's always been sven because vermund was the last town i evacuated and i guess that adds to his affinity so he ends up being the person in the credits for me despite not being the person i actively went after.

Can't see this and the previous podcast on youtube music. I'd appreciate if you could put them there (somehow) - if possible

The spoiler alert is a scam, am more than halfway through and they haven't even talked abt the game 💀

I didn't even know the dragon grabbed your most beloved npc at the end, he was holding that guy at the hot springs giving you rotten boiled eggs and because he was a former arisen I thought it was scripted.

Any plans to post your recent podcast videos to your podcast channel? I'd love to listen to them on my podcast app of choice rather than RUclips video.

I had a cyclops pick me up and throw me at another cyclops face and it stagger him and he started falling backwards when I hit him

finally... a new episode...

I love the podcast

I think the main reason people got upset about the microtransactions is because it seemed like Capcom intentionally hid them until the game launched, when it was too late for people to cancel their pre-orders, which created the perception that they'd tricked everyone into buying it before knowing about the microtransactions.
I think if they'd been more up front about the microtransactions from the beginning, nobody would have cared, because the reviewers would have mentioned how they are very minor and don't deter from the gameplay at all.

The comparisons you make from DD1 to 2 are awesome and very insightful, a video focused on this would be awesome I wish you delved into it more but ruri was not having it lol

The pawns at the park are free, I have 458 pawns

The false Arisen is so unimportant he doesn't even have a character entry in the journal.

People who lie about this sh*t are so annoying. ALL Microtransaction f*cking suck. You don't need to lie about this. This most disproportionate scapegoat for some reason. The Overwatch Macro-transitions deserve this sh*t some much more.

Talos fight.. and that achievement for fighting "faster" easy to do with the magick archer.. basic attack with right click and destroy every spot before he even reaches ballista..Not sure if there is a time limit.. and you can give one gift per day.. dragoncrystal or whatever that drops from drakes will max out the relationship.. so give that to 50 people and you get the achievement for maxing out 50 people

I think the problem with microtransactions is we are talking about two different community's you mentioned WOW, Helldivers and Diablo I think these are more main stream younger audience and and more Casual gamers I think when you start touching single player RPGS you have a more mature audience and a community that doesn't have a lot of microtransactions in their games, when they see some they fly off the rails but if WOW added more microtransactions they have been conditioned to it same with COD and other live service games.

1:11:49 I think your focus is misplaced. I don’t think we should shift the narrative towards people being mad at mtx, but rather keep it focused on removing them from fully priced games.

1:38:17 I've heard some people say it's due to the physics and what not but i'd argue that the Hydra could have been a unique endgame boss encounter. You could literally just say that lorewise they're mostly extinct but that a few do survive. Anything would be better than what we have right now. I also hate the simplification of combat and the classes.

The only time I did spoil a mechanic (Sorry Rata) I did it because I thought he knew the solution but maybe had a lapse in memory (MM playthrough). I never backseat but something came over me so I understand when people do it, even if it's not ideal.

This podcast is how I find out RE4 had microtransactions (I played the game 3 times to completion so far).

Two best video game channels on youtube!
Shoutout to Smoughtown too

Devs don't decide whether a game has microtransactions, Publishers do.

We need to change the name of this game to Dragons Drama 2.

Yaaaay homie is back

False Arisen is in the story... "He's not important". Then don't write him in. Bad bad bad.

Unrelated but did Ratatoskr ever make a follow up on Final Fantasy 16? His thoughts on the demo were extremely positive but I don't remember seeing him say anything about the full game.

So, should I wait for Dragons Dogma 2 definitive edition or should I get the game now?

Didnt know you and cowboy played together :0 good content i loved the game :) forager is OP

I turned a cyclops into a living bridge after I got him to fall on the real bridge between two canyons then he fell into the canyon onto a pack of saurians, it was hilarious

I thought they were talking about Friends Matthew Perry lol, didnt know theres was a historical figure Matthew Perry

Is it ever explained why suddenly only 1 arisen is allowed?

Rurikhan's rant was awesome 😂

Yggdrasil podcast is always so good. I am also wondering if it’s possible for your pawn to pick up your character and be directed to move somewhere?
The reason I’m asking, I want to do a heavy roleplay play through as an old man, who refuses to walk

Magic archer killed talos before he got up the beach.

I played through BG3 twice putting 350 hours and I saves gum the hell out of it and I'm not ashamed. But when I say save scum I mean like most of the saves scumming was because I'm trying to pit pocket someone and keep getting caught so I just save scum... sorry not sorry. Now in this game I have not saved scummed once because I can't. Ps5

I just started sekiro and i try to play every game blind but i looked up a couple behinner videos because that game is brutal.

Rurikhan complains about playing video games a lot for a career and it is such an out of touch cry baby approach

I love you guys, but holy sh*t talk to RUclips about the ads. LITERALLY every five minutes there was. 30s to 2 minutes ad. I timed the frequency.
Completely out of control. It absolutely disrupted and disjointed the conversation. To the extent that I didn't finish the podcast even though I was really interested in what was being said.

make new game plus and the *SPOILER* world harder and this game will easily be 10/10 for me

it’s like hardcore with gmdx, or doing a run in the roguelite shiren 5.. a hard save-system without manual saves (though you can sort of scum this system) makes you play the game without thinking of abusing saves.. I will admit this game is pretty easy but it has enough challenge at levels 0-30 to always have you considering it and making your own struggle stories.. after a certain point you won’t be having those long struggling adventure moments which is disappointing

I have a question toward streamers and reviewers. How do you review games and also follow with a first time play through when the game launched? If you played before launch for the review, would live-stream not be a first time play through? I’m just curious because Ruri live stream seemed to be his first time?? But he already played the game weeks ago.

I listen to ign if they make good points. You have to listen to their arguments and not just look at the score at the end.

In regard to guy in rift its actually worse id argue could be wrong but pretty sure the game wont show pawns more then 3 lvls over unless asked 4

What’s the point even of the Talos?

If the MTX was such a huge point of stress for the reviewers then why didn't anyone at least slap Cowboy on the wrist(privately) for throwing stuff out there before confirming whether or not people knew?

Listening to this having Raid Shadow Legends adverts interrupting every 5 mins. So meta ❤

I don't think people "don't understand" it's an opinionated content, I believe it has more to do with people wishing they could be interacting with you debating the subject and agreeing or making counterpoints.
But this happens in everything, even in fiction. Sometimes you watch a movie and say "man this character is dumb, he should've said that!". Or you watch a reality show in which people can't seem to be good at bringing up good arguments to debate someone else.
We understand (at least some of us) that when you say "Y game sucks" it's just an opinion but there will always be this urge to reply "huh I wonder why you came up with this sentiment, maybe play the game like this", and just talk about it. For example, you or Ruri mentioned that BG3 3rd act is perceived as the weakest act of the game and as someone who thinks the opposite, that act 3 is by far the best, I wish I could chime in and defend it. I think that's all this is about.

I don't remember a game where the guy character just has a MASSIVE bulge pack 😂

The dragon princess

Dude, I was so miffed at the difficulty in dragons' dogma 2. I had JUST gotten magic archer before the final boss, was like halfway through leveling it, used the ultimate for the first time vs THE Dragon, and poof, one shot. I was like, wtf. Entire fight just completely skipped. They NEED to add a difficulty slider of some sort, its SO easy with any class its sad. That, or level cap the player and pawns.

Ratatoskr I love your tone of speaking man lmao. Like I don't disagree but I think it's your strength.

She was dragon on my dogma, 2

When is the crossover with Asmongold happening?

Just wished its Dragons dogma 2 and not 1.25

The Brine only kills pawns. The Brine sends everything back to shore. I sent that racist Harve village guy and he was back the next quest.

Spoiler ahead gran soren is in unmoored world :) dd1 reference

I find it hard to believe that none of the bosses in ROTR took more than 5 attempts by Rurikhan, The Blade Twin? The Red & Blue Demon fight? The Bayonett dude? And those are earlier fights. Either he's using a cheesy playstyle (blocking while spam parrying?) or I'm missing something. The feeling of this combat is right up there with Lies of P and Sekiro, it's straight up flow state inducing.
Even now you keep comparing this poor game to everything else, I guess it will need a year or more before "crititcs" are able to judge it clearly on its own merit, along with GOT and Elden Ring it has the most FUN gameplay I've ever had in an open world, that MEANS something. It's a strong 7 or a weak 8 (so a 75/100) but a 9/10 for gameplay.

I'm the only one that thinks the music in DD2 is super forgettable compared to the music in DD1?

I wish i liked DD2.
I really don't get how you guys like DD2 that much, I played about 20 hours and from then on everything was too easy. It became mind numbing as i could kill gryphon, golem etc, in somewhere between 30 sec-2 mins. Climbing mechanic is very cool, till it's too easy and you jump on head and spam attack and insta win. The hardest fight til late game is a dragon i just climb and spam and win in 2 min.
Also exploration was cool, but you get some random roborant 90% of the time. I don't explore to get nothing of value.
8-12 skills per class was very narrow. Fighter felt like it had 4 real skills and 6 defensive that were useless since i can't die.

Fun fact Ameirca is the latin version name of a Portuguese sailer who mapped north and south america.

Actual bad micro transactions are stuff like weight and incentory increases in games where those things are limited to incentivise buying those micros, or things that invalidate parts of the game.
The micros in dd2 are tacked on and have little utility and the game clearly isnt built around them.

Enjoyed this episode overall, Rata. Regarding the little point about opinions at the start, there's always going to be unreasonable commenters who will treat anything you say as gospel. However, your own language always plays into it, too. Everything you say is an opinion, but opinions CAN be facts. I can present true, objective information as an opinion. Slipping in a little 'I think that' rather than 'This *is*' when you really want to flag something as purely your feelings? That only makes your communication clearer.

Game was a light 6 let’s be real

Not sure what Ruri is talking about, clearly the British Empire was the best at ships.

about affinity. Somewhere in the game, maybe the tutorial for affinity it explains in strange words that if you had a romance they get jelous very hard if you have a romance with another character after that. Wich is pretty dogsh*t because you dont have the option to if you want this to end this in a romantic way and you sometimes dont even know that you just had a romantic scene.
iam not shure even now. Its just Wilhelmina Ulrika and the Empress right?
ah before i forget, this corsett underwear having the best defensive stats for everyone is also a thing that needs to go

Thank you for the spoiler warning 😅 🙏🏾. I'll have to check it out after I finish the game.

For the love of god dont release Metroid prime four on og switch.

Spending half the podcast being like "people don't understand these are just opinions," "Call me a shill but don't call me a liar," and other such basic ass takes is really a drag.
Yall really don't need to spend so much time defending yourselves from the vocal minority. You're giving them power when you do that.

I like rurikhan. I watch a lot of his video and his podcast because we have similar taste but damn is he annoying sometimes.

DD2 feels more like a DD1.5, its like they take 1 step forward and 2 step backward lol
I mean i still like the game, but how can they kinda downgrade it from Dark Arisen tho, i mean they really got the formula back then but how did they fcked this up on the basegame of the new one, they're definitely doing some works for the DLC i guess lol

The conversation about how people interpret what you say, is very much inline with the Neurotypical & Neurodivergent conversations.
Neurotypicals are more prone to come into a conversation with their own preconceived notions & expect to see specific behaviours or special language being used & when it isn't they become defensive/aggressive.
Neurodivergents are prone to take things at face value, listen or accept the contexts that are being presented in the moment rather than assume any preconceived ideas & also express back in that same literal way.
There are overlaps & way, WAY, *WAY* more details & intricate parts I haven't mentioned but yeah. Very inline with that, which also connects to the broader conversations out there about how people today aren't communicating effectively but ppl aren't connecting together.

I liked Dragons Dogma II quite a bit for the first 15ish hours, then slowly began to hate it lol. Had to force myself to finish it

The MtK is bad in Payd games and on DD2 its worse that the game was not 2 weeks out and we get a DLC wTF its great that new contant but thats the thing is they make that in Purpose + MTK how much you want to melk the COW.
I like DD2 and its not 2012 anymore so DD1 make more Playerwise things that was better.

Is this the Capcom Shill Convention?

I save scum because I know it's very unlikely I'm gonna replay the game to experience what I missed. So I want to get rhe most out of it during that one playthrough.